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I'm realizing more and more the usefulness of "de." For example, the 'coverb' situation's ambiguity as in: Go zu krayon gra pwey. I use pencil write letter. can be made totally clear thus: Go zu krayon de gra pwey. And we can even make an instrumental case, sort of: Go krayonzu de gra pwey. -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm