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on 2/25/04 10:14 PM, Rex May - Baloo at rmay@hidden.email wrote: > on 2/25/04 10:08 PM, Rex May - Baloo at rmay@hidden.email wrote: > >> >>> I also think we may need different levels of connecting >>> hyphens...Some stickier or with broader scope than others. Or >>> again, "sa" to say 'let's pause a moment and gather everything up'. >>> Did we ever decide whether "sa" wraps up everything including all >>> preceding "sa" clauses, or just everything since the previous "sa" in >>> the sentence? >> >> Yes. I'm afraid I keep coming back to some Loglanish solution. Ceqli was >> first conceived as a Loglan reform, anyway. Let's think broadly: >> >> My first notion was to adopt all the Loglan connectives as is but to have >> he, ha, etc. in place of e, a, to fit the ceqli phonology. We really can't >> do that, as we have two excellent words, ho and hu, that I'd hate to >> interfere with. My second thought was to replace e, a, etc. with a series >> of diphthongs, which is still sort of what's going on.... A weird thought. >> We could ressurrect your j/dj contrast, setting j to /Z/, and have the >> series ja je ji jo ju for connectives! Let's think this through calmly... >> >> We would have a slight weirdness in that c would be the unvoiced equivalent >> of dj. We really don't want to change that c. It's been messed with all >> too much already. >> >> connectives would then be: >> >> Loglan Ceqli >> >> a ja >> e je >> i ji >> o jo >> u ju >> noa buja >> anoi jabu >> >> >> Another possibility would be to have a "hla" series, where the hl is >> essentially an unvoiced "l". > > Or, what would you suggest? I mean, keep the aeiou series, but prefix them > with something. Kr? Kl? Or rearrange some vocabulary and use a > single-letter series. If the latter, it'd be nice to pick something that > doesn't require much shifting. Certainly not b, c, d, f, g,... A quick look thru the vocabulary so far shows that of the h's, only hu and ho are used up, and of the v's, only vi and vo. -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm