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on 2/25/04 10:08 PM, Rex May - Baloo at rmay@hidden.email wrote: > >> I also think we may need different levels of connecting >> hyphens...Some stickier or with broader scope than others. Or >> again, "sa" to say 'let's pause a moment and gather everything up'. >> Did we ever decide whether "sa" wraps up everything including all >> preceding "sa" clauses, or just everything since the previous "sa" in >> the sentence? > > Yes. I'm afraid I keep coming back to some Loglanish solution. Ceqli was > first conceived as a Loglan reform, anyway. Let's think broadly: > > My first notion was to adopt all the Loglan connectives as is but to have > he, ha, etc. in place of e, a, to fit the ceqli phonology. We really can't > do that, as we have two excellent words, ho and hu, that I'd hate to > interfere with. My second thought was to replace e, a, etc. with a series > of diphthongs, which is still sort of what's going on.... A weird thought. > We could ressurrect your j/dj contrast, setting j to /Z/, and have the > series ja je ji jo ju for connectives! Let's think this through calmly... > > We would have a slight weirdness in that c would be the unvoiced equivalent > of dj. We really don't want to change that c. It's been messed with all > too much already. > > connectives would then be: > > Loglan Ceqli > > a ja > e je > i ji > o jo > u ju > noa buja > anoi jabu > > > Another possibility would be to have a "hla" series, where the hl is > essentially an unvoiced "l". Or, what would you suggest? I mean, keep the aeiou series, but prefix them with something. Kr? Kl? Or rearrange some vocabulary and use a single-letter series. If the latter, it'd be nice to pick something that doesn't require much shifting. Certainly not b, c, d, f, g,... -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm