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on 2/16/04 6:41 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote: > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: >> on 2/16/04 1:37 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote: >> >>> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: > --SNIP-- > >>>> What would >>>> >>>> Go tir to boli te dan to dom. >>>> >>>> mean? Can the 'te' make 'dan to dom' into a noun phrase that is >>> then >>>> unambiguously an ind ob? >>> >>> Maybe, if we're not counting on "te" for other purposes as well >>> (e.g., it couldn't mark a DIRECT object). Whatever word is used, >>> there must be a rule that it cannot compound. >> >> No, what I was trying to say was that the old 'te' could make 'dan > to dom' >> into a noun-oid of sorts, and then, by position, it occupies the > spot of an >> indirect object. Not clear the way I put it, and I'm not that > crazy about >> it anyway. > > Also, we're out of positions. Before the verb = subject, after the > verb = direct object. Yes. We need a three-dimensional language. > >> >>> >>> Also, my Euromind wants 'inside of house' rather than 'inside the >>> house': >>> >>> "Go tir to boli te dan vi dom." (defining "vi" as 'of') >> >> actually, it could be 'hu': >> >> "Go tir to boli te dan hu dom." >> >> 'dan hu dom' = 'dom de dan' >> > Oh. Yeah. > >> But it would be nice not to have to distort it any way at all. > > ??? 'I throw the ball to the inside of house.' Who's distortin'? Yes, that's -my- Euromind. I just want it to be 'in the house' > >> Actually, I >> think we'd have compound prepositions like Eng into, onto. faqdan > faqsur, >> etc., and then >> >> "Go tir to boli dan to dom." >> >> would have to mean that the whole thing took place inside >> > > If "faq" is our marker for indirect object, then these compounds are > fine but probably not necessary. I would still probably use "hu" > or "de": > > "Go tir to boli faq dan hu dom." > faq isn't the ind ob marker as such, it just means direction. Tho it'll probably end up being -one- such marker. Go tir to hon (faq) zi. Go ziq ben zi. I sing to you. In the first case, faq can be omitted because it's understandable without it. > -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm