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Re: Q about ambiguities



--- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote:
> on 2/16/04 1:37 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote:
> 
> > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote:
--SNIP--

> >> What would
> >> 
> >> Go tir to boli te dan to dom.
> >> 
> >> mean?  Can the 'te' make 'dan to dom' into a noun phrase that is
> > then
> >> unambiguously an ind ob?
> > 
> > Maybe, if we're not counting on "te" for other purposes as well
> > (e.g., it couldn't mark a DIRECT object). Whatever word is used,
> > there must be a rule that it cannot compound.
> 
> No, what I was trying to say was that the old 'te' could make 'dan 
to dom'
> into a noun-oid of sorts, and then, by position, it occupies the 
spot of an
> indirect object.  Not clear the way I put it, and I'm not that 
crazy about
> it anyway.

Also, we're out of positions. Before the verb = subject, after the 
verb = direct object. 

> 
> > 
> > Also, my Euromind wants 'inside of house' rather than 'inside the
> > house':
> > 
> > "Go tir to boli te dan vi dom." (defining "vi" as 'of')
> 
> actually, it could be 'hu':
> 
> "Go tir to boli te dan hu dom."
> 
> 'dan hu dom' = 'dom de dan'
> 
Oh. Yeah.

> But it would be nice not to have to distort it any way at all.  

??? 'I throw the ball to the inside of house.' Who's distortin'?

> Actually, I
> think we'd have compound prepositions like Eng into, onto.  faqdan 
faqsur,
> etc., and then 
> 
> "Go tir to boli dan to dom."
> 
> would have to mean that the whole thing took place inside
> 

If "faq" is our marker for indirect object, then these compounds are 
fine but probably not necessary. I would still probably use "hu" 
or "de":

"Go tir to boli faq dan hu dom."

--Krawn