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on 2/1/04 9:08 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote: > > I don't know about "sao", though. To me it doesn't seem so important > whether the known thing is known because I just identified it or > because it's assumed as already identified through common experience. > If this distinction is made, then it seems that all the others in > Garrett's initial list ought to be made as well. I don't either. Seems useful when saying '_the_ John Jones' but not really more than that. Offhand. I'd say let's use 'to' for the sun, the president, the Galaxy, etc. I definitely don't want to go the Loglan path of making them into names. -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm