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on 1/19/04 2:26 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote: > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> > wrote: >> I've thought about this: >> >> Add three vowels to Ceqli, all expressed by digraphs: >> >> ae - as in English cAt >> oe - as in French bOEUf >> ue - as in German UEber >> > > For representing some of the more common vowel sounds > foreign to Ceqli, okay (like ZH etc. for a common consonant that > is foreign). But not for native Ceqli words. Please? > > 1) 'Bat' and 'bet' sound alike to most non-English speakers. Even > Koreans, whose written language distinguishes these two > sounds, report that they have a hard time telling the difference > (though not so 600 years ago) > > 2) 'oe' would sound like a stressed schwa, but I think we're going > to need to reserve schwa for consonant cluster buffering. (But I > could bend on this one as long as 'oe' is clearly pronounced.) > > 3) 'ue' is a sound that English and Spanish speakers, among > others, have great difficulty with. > > But the concept of permitting digraphs for a foreign sounds is a > fine one, as long as they don't collide with existing morpheme > shapes. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yes, I have to fight my impulse to dick around with the phonology. I'm still hung up on letter names, tho, in a search for reduncancy. Suppose we went with no pattern, but gave each letter a name: beya cuwa dela faya gama hoya jiwa kawa pewa siya tera viqa xara zowa All for lower case. For upper case, add -y to each. Beyay, etc. Or maybe go with a more regular pattern, thus: bala cama dana fara gaqa haya jawa kula puma suna tura vuqa xuya zuwa So the pattern would be Ca(the weaks, in order) followed by Cu(the weaks in order), covering all 14 consonants. We can then use a pattern like yours to make the names for the vowels, or go with something simpler: he a (he is by definition not stressed here) he e he i he o he u And then: he ya he we he li he mo he nu he ray he qaw All this wouldn't be necessary if we weren't using the 14 for pronouns. Thoughs? -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm