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on 6/10/02 9:58 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 08:15:05PM -0600, Rex May - Baloo wrote: >> on 6/10/02 3:33 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 09:20:47PM -0600, Rex May - Baloo wrote: >>>> Hm. Sure. Now, we really need to decide what to do about this -r ending. >>>> If we use -r to convert a smalvor into a preya, then all words of the form >>>> CV(V)r are going to look like converted smalvor. Is that okay? If it is, >>>> then we have to be careful not to make a CV(V)r that we _need_ for that >>>> purpose. Or should we restrict CV(V)r to derivations of CV(V)'s? >>> >>> This is why I originally suggested -q instead of -r for this. >> And you may have been very right. I was concerned that we'd lose a lot of >> mandarin loan words, but -r loses us a lot of words from everywhere else. >> Using endings like -rl or -lm would lead to very difficult pronunciation for >> some people. How about -ry? It adds a syllable, but being a schwa, a >> very short one. > > The expense of a syllable would be enough to cause people to avoid using > extremely useful affixes like "bery". This happened to Lojban's "fi'o" > (Ceqli "ho"). That, I'm sure, is true. > > Considering that it will already be the case that some pinvor (smalvor?) > will have affix versions and others won't, it hardly seems any more > inconsistent to vary the consonant as necessary. This is a bit of a > reversal from my original position. > > But if there's going to be a single consonant that is always attached, > it might as well be q. The best thing about -r is that it can easily juxtapose with any following consonant, while I suppose some people wd have trouble with -q. But at this point it seems to be the best solution. We lose a lot of Mandarin loan words, but not all by any means. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/