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on 4/28/02 11:20 AM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > I think that Ceqli should become a version of Lojban with a much better > morphology and with certain annoyances fixed. Various things in it have > mimiced natural languages up until now; the ones that don't work in a > logical language will have to go. This sounds good, if it's possible. > > Though terminators are unnatural, I think the alternative is worse. > Requiring every place of every predicate would cancel out the > conciseness that Ceqli has. The other alternative, of course, is for the > grammar to be ambiguous, in which case I don't think Ceqli would fill > any particular need. > > Incidentally, how is an "initial particle telling which places are > dropped" any better than a terminator? > > Rex, what do you think about all this? I'm a bit at sea. The way I envision it, there's a limit of three places per pred. And that wd seem to make 'something' entries in the places less oppressive. Following the loglan usage, Mi donsu ba be. I give something to someone. If I understand how a terminator wd work, having one wd save only one syllable. Mi donsu [terminator] I'd like, I think, for a pred to have no more places than are likely to be used when the pred is used in general. Like, soma (read) should have only two. Go soma da. I read it. To stop here a minute, Ceqli does need some 'something' words, like Loglan, and I assume, Lojban, does. the Loglan ba be bo bu could be Ceqli say, sey, soi, saw. So the answer to what are you doing is "Go don say sey" I give something to somebody. So a terminator wd save only one syllable, or am I missing something? -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/