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On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 01:45:43PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > If the grammar is supposed to be unambiguous and if Ceqli > wants to avoid the complexities and ugliness of Lojban's > terminators, then the easiest way to effect this is by > having consistently head-initial or consistently head-final > word order. (The other necessary principle is that there > should be no optionality of complements.) > > In the present instance, that would make the basic order > P123 (or else 123P). To get the other orders, different > initial particles could be used: > > ptcl1 1 P 2 3 > be 2 P 1 3 > ge 3 P 2 1 > > etc. How would P123 help? You'd still need a terminator at the end. (Or is this what you're referring to with 'optionality of complements', that you would not be allowed to omit places?) I see that 123P could eliminate terminators, but I don't see this appealing to anyone besides German speakers, and it goes against the tendency to convey more basic information at the beginning of the sentence. -- Rob Speer