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on 4/26/02 10:59 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 06:41:00PM -0600, Rex May - Baloo wrote:
>> Isn't it a question of how you define 'ho'? I'm thinking of it as meaning
>> 'by'
>> I write by use of a pencil.
>> or one meaning of -ing
>> I write using a pencil.
>>
>> Originally I was following Mandarin usage:
>>
>> Go ploj te krajon skri.
>>
>> Where the first verb phrase sort of modifies the second. Then I saw
>> problems with that, and decided to use a 'subordinating particle', which is
>> how I see the 'ho' here.
>
> But then the subject of the sentence has to be one of the arguments to
> the predicate that you make into a modal. Consider "because" ("ki'u" in
> Lojban). You are not the cause, and you are not the effect, yet you can
> attach "because" to a sentence in the same way.
Well, yes, but I wouldn't think of attaching a because the same way. Maybe
Lojban 'modal's include a lot more than what I was thinking for 'ho' words.
I can see I have to think more on this.
>
> You're also relying on argument order rules so that "te krajon" falls
> into x2, but those don't make sense in modals because there is only one
> argument.
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