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on 4/22/02 9:15 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 06:26:45PM -0600, Rex May - Baloo wrote: >> If we are going to baseline it thus, the first step is for me to relex all >> the confounded preds of CV(V) shape. Oh, well ? We get to keep 'sa'. >> Some of my favorite preds will have to go ? ga, pi, pe, xau, etc. > > Note that the first three would be clobbered by PV(V) anyway... That's right... It was fun while it lasted. > > Something a bit different: currently Ceqli has "be" which is the > equivalent of Lojban "se"; it switches the first and second places of > predicates and assorted other stuff. (Its additional function as a > terminator, as in "beto", I think should be assigned to a different > pinvor.) But if we've established that predicates can have 3 places, > there needs to be a 1st-3rd switcheroo also. Good. And 3 places are enough to be useful but few enough to keep things simple. Maybe you're right about another pinvor for terminations. Perhaps by. What do we do when we want a combining form for be? I think we will, for -ee things. I mean, as in Go kom. Da be kom. To kom is 'eater' so how to make form 'the eaten'.? Loglan turns 'nu' into 'nur' Or do we need a special form? Can 'the eaten' just be 'to bekom'? Or does that blur the distinction between pinvor and grovor? Come to think of it, it doesn't need to be something on the end. There could be a CV prefix that makes a pinvor into a grovor. > > The series in Lojban is se, te, ve, xe. We only need two. I suggest: > be, ge. Sounds good to me. > > To jump directly to a place, Lojban has fa, fe, fi, fo, fu. This could > be adopted directly as fa, fe, fi. This you'll have to explain or I'll have to look up. I'm not sure what jump directly means here. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/