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on 4/22/02 9:54 AM, uaxuctum at uaxuctum@hidden.email wrote: >> It just struck me that it wd be especially appropriate to allow the > 4 >> affricates above, because they could all have a letter assigned to > them in >> the future, and, unlike the ck, jb, etc., they are often regarded > as a >> single phoneme anyway. Tc and Dj all over the place, ts in German, > Russian, >> etc, and dz in Mandarin. > > Just two minor corrections: tc and dj are not considered > phonemes "all over the place", just think of French; > and /dz/ doesn't exist in Mandarin (only <z> /ts/ and > <c> /tsh/); /dz/ is used e.g. in Georgian. Right again. Let's say that tc and dj are -widely- considered phonemes, and, of course, dz is a pinyin spelling of an unaspirated ts, which to the English ear sounds more like dz than an aspirated ts does. Of course, maybe we can dispense with all of these affricates if we adopt Javierspeak, because we'll have several more VV's to work with. We'll have Rob's a e i o u y ai ei oi au (these 4 spelled with j and w) ia ie io iu ua ue ui uo, (plus jy and wy) plus ja, je, jo, ju, wa, we wi wo That's 28 of them, times 6 plosives, or 168. And if that's not enough, we can prefix j and w to all the Vw's and Vj's, for 8 more combos time 6 plosives or, 48 of them, plus 168 is 216, just the right amount. And, finally, we will have the exceptional names for letters, many of which of course have to begin with something other than plosives. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/