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I just realized something. If we want the letter-pronouns of Loglan, we'll have to sort of relax the cmavo rule for that purpose alone. That is, cmavo are PV(V), but to name the letters (or at least all the consonants) we need a pattern like Ceo At least. Go ten te hon. Heo bon. I have a book. It is good. And maybe two such patterns, one for upper and lower case, and maybe another for Greek, as in loglan. How many does Lojban have? -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/