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Some of my reasoning for the noun vs non-noun thing is: Esperanto never got that clearly worked out, and it's a flaw. Martelo marteli martelado. Loglan avoids it, but ends up with every 'noun' being a verb with the not terribly useful meaning "is an X". We could do the Loglan thing in Ceqli, with some kind of ending, or set of endings, nounifying non-nouns. It could be a relatively small number of endings, but I have an aversion to it anyway. Or, we could always identify nouns with a t-word: Go pe. I am-a-person. Verbal meaning of 'pe'. Mike, an _extremely_ stative verb. To pe The person. Ta pe a person Ti pe. Something named 'pe'. Te pe Person, with undefined definiteness. Other, as yet undefined t-words would mean things like 'the typical', etc. as in Loglan This last way was how I was doing it sometime ago. What do you think? -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/