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Re: [txeqli] Nailed Down

Title: Re: [txeqli] Nailed Down
on 3/7/02 10:34 PM, Ray Bergmann at rayber@hidden.email wrote:

Rex:-> You could be right.  If so, how about zoype instead of bupe?
Ray:-> Possibly, but "zoy" is Chinese ling2 which is "nulo" in Esperanto and "zero" in Ido, Interlingua and English.  For "no(thing)", chinese uses "mei2(shen2me)" which means "without-thing", Esperanto uses "nenio", Ido uses "nulo" and Interlingua uses "nil"!  All of these languages have separate words for "no/not": bu4 (Chinese), ne (Esperanto and Ido) and "non" in Interlingua.  For "no-one/nobody", Chinese uses "mei2ren2" (without-person), Esperanto uses "neniu", Ido Uses "nulu" and Interlingua uses "necuno", with a separate entry "nullitate" for when "nobody" means "a non-entity". Esperanto uses either "senvalorulo" or "nulo/nulu" for that meaning, and Ido uses either "senvalora homo" or "zero/zeru".  
So your "zoype" would mean "nobody = non-entity" and the ceqli word for "nobody = without-person" would be "sinpe".   
they would, I suppose, if we're to follow the usages of Chinese and Esperanto.  BTW, mei2 means other things than 'without,' I believe.  But no matter.  I think zoype could work on the basis of the analogy.

Goda ten zoysi banana.   We have zero bananas.  (Which means nothing more or less than we have no bananas).

Zoysi pe sta dom.  Zero people are at the house.

It's a simple step to make a compound, Zoype.  If we need a word for nonentity, we can make one.  Zoyvalpe.  Zero-value-person.

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