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on 2/27/02 3:25 PM, Mike Wright at darwin@hidden.email wrote: > Rex May - Baloo wrote: >> >> on 2/26/02 9:17 PM, Mike Wright at darwin@hidden.email wrote: >> >>> Ray Bergman wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>>> The sound before a word beginning with a vowel is a glottal stop. >>> [...] >>> >>> In some languages, such as Arabic or Hokkien, it is phonemic, but in >>> others, such as most (all?) English dialects, it is not, and often >>> occurs only after a pause. If I say, "That is an ugly old owl", I can >>> do it without a single glottal stop. >> >> And I do as well. In my dialect, tho, I use a glottal stop in 'button'. > > Do you mean to say that your tongue tip doesn't touch the alveolar > ridge until you get to the /n/, but that your glottis actually closes > prior to that? If you stretch it out, do the syllables break as /bV? > n-/? (/n-/ is syllabic "n"). yes > > For me, the /n-/ and the closing of the glottis seems to be > simultaneous, but when I stretch it out, I switch to /bV tn-/. In > fact, I may actually be saying /bVtn-/ in the normal version, and the > voicing of the /n-/ just feels like the glottis closing. In neither > case does it feel like the nice, clear phonemic /?/ of Arabic or Hokkien. In my case, it's very nearly simultaneous, but not quite. It's never a /t/, that I'm sure of. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/