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I'm beginning to wish the C controversy had never come up. Well, I've learned a lot from it. I'm just about to revert to the 'C is for Ceqli' version for the following reasons, exclusive of the problem of what to do with C itself. A great many languages, including Mandarin, English, Hindustani, German, Russian, Japanese, have /tS/ and /S/ as separate phonemes. None of these languages have /dZ/ and /Z/ as separate phonemes. The only languages I can dig up that do are Esperanto and (just barely) English. So the symmetry of tx, x, dj, j is maybe more graphic than real. For one thing, I was considering the minimal pairs ji and dji, and I didn't want to use them at all. didn't sound different enough. But tx and x seem just fine. Is it just me, or is that a language universal, pretty much? -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/