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on 2/20/02 3:53 PM, Alexander Browne at alexbrowne@hidden.email wrote: > [...] >> Then, the consonant names >> don't have to be restricted to Ceu or Cew, but can go like this: > [...] >> More redundant, and therefore more useful as pronouns. > > This may be obvious, but I don't see how consonant names relate to > pronouns ;) Please explain! > Sure thing. It's an idea that started with either me or Loglan or Lojban, I can't remember which. As all nouns begin with consonants, they can be symbolized by those consonants. To quote from my site: "The consonant names have a special use, in a system borrowed from Loglan. They act as referential pronouns when necessary: To gasa selkarnepe pa xau ta Jan Karvilpe sta to hongudom. The big butcher saw John Wheelwright in the library. Seu pipyar heu kai bu pipyar jeu. (also written as) S pipyar H kai bu pipyar J. S likes H and (but) doesnÕt like J. So, you can derive pronouns from preceding nouns by using the letter-name of the letter that the nouns begin with. This may or may not be a productive system." Now, note that the forms would be wrong if we switch to the nasalized names for consonants. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm