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Re: [Latejami] L8: argument links of case tag/adverbs



In a message dated 7/16/2006 7:45:30 AM Central Standard Time, ram@hidden.email writes:


> Lesson 8 has this sentence:
>     I saw John in the dining room eating.
>     Kiva bavi Lajonbegi zoge fudepi fucale.
>
> The implied subject of "fucale" is obviously "Lajonbegi", but is this
> necessarily the case?  Can the sentence be interpreted so that the
> implied subject is "bavi"?
>

It sure can, although I doubt if anyone would.  You could also interpret
it so that the implied subject of "zoge" is "bavi".

>
>  How can the argument the adverb/case tag links to be made explicit?
>

How would you do it in English?


Circumlocution:
In this case there are four possibilities, [I, John] x [in the dining room, eating] (the cross product of the two sets).

I saw John while I was in the dining room eating.
I was in the dining room eating when I saw John.

I was in the dining room and John was eating when I saw him.
I saw John while I was in the dining room and John was eating.

John was in the dining room and I was eating when I saw him.
I saw John while he was in the dining room and I was eating.

John was in the dining room eating when I saw him.
I saw John while he was in the dining room eating.

In other words, by making a separate clause with an explicit subject and no object, so that the only possible argument is the subject.  Forcing the object interpretation would likely require rephrasing so that the object became a subject.  I could do this in Latejami too, but I thought there might be some other way.


Zoga bavi fudepi fucale dase kiva bavi Lajonbegi.
Kiva bavi Lajonbegi dase zoga bavi fudepi fucale.

Zoga Lajonbegi fudepi fucale dase kiva bavi jonhi.
Kiva bavi Lajonbegi dase zoga jonhi fudepi fucale.

Doycipu zoga bavi fudepi zer fucala Lajonbegi dase kiva bavi jonhi.
Kiva bavi Lajonbegi dase doycipu zoga bavi fudepi zer fucala jonhi.

Doycipu zoga Lajonbegi fudepi zer fucala bavi dase kiva bavi jonhi.
Kiva bavi Lajonbegi dase doycipu zoga jonhi fudepi zer fucala bavi.

I added "doycipu" in the latter set because of the verb "fucala".  Do I need it in the first set also?

stevo