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--- In westasianconlangs@yahoogroups.com, Carl Edlund Anderson <cea@...> wrote: > > On 02 Jun 2011, at 22:08 , Etherman23 wrote: > > > > So I've decided to try my hand at a Turkic conlang. It's called Proto-Oguq and is really a first step towards a family of Turkic conlangs. It forms a third branch of the Turkic languages (the other two being Oghur Turkic and Common Turkic) .... > > The bulk of the lexicon is inherited from Proto-Turkic. > > What are you using for sources on Proto-Turkic? I think I have a copy of the Clausen dictionary of Old Turkic and the more recent Erdal grammar of Old Turkic. While it seems like that there is still a lot of foundational work to do in Turkic, the latter is certainly handy for conlanging purposes. :) On the other hand, I haven't got a better idea for a source of Proto-Turkic vocabulary than Dybo's online database: <http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/response.cgi?root=config&morpho=0&basename=\data\alt\turcet&first=1>. Still, that may be good enough for conlanging purposes, too! :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ For the lexicon I'm primarily using Starostin's database. I'm not sure if I buy the distinction between e and dotted e, but even if it exists I'm simply going to assume that they merged in Proto-Oguq. There are a number of examples where Dybo isn't sure which vowel to reconstruct because of irregularities. Often this is apparently due to consonants effecting following vowels, so it's not hard to guess what the correct vowel actually is. Due to widespread irregularities I will sometimes simply randomly change vowels Morphology is a bit trickier since I have no reconstruction to work with (aside from the woefully inadequate section on nominal morphology in EDAL). There is a document floating around the Internet which reconstructs Proto-Oghuz nominal inflectional morphology. Using this and some resources for Chuvash and other non-Oghuz languages it's actually fairly easy to reconstruct the nominal inflectional morphology. The Turkic languages are very conservative in this area. I haven't looked into nominal derivational morphology or verbal morphology, but there is a nice webpage which is a Turkish suffix dictionary. http://www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/ I have literally dozens of documents on various aspects of different Turkic languages which I've collected online through the years, and I'll have to sift through those to get further with Proto-Oguq. And of course for conlanging purposes I can blatantly steal ideas from Turkic or other languages and call it "areal effects" or derive suffixes/clitics internally through grammaticalization.