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In Rhodrese '-um' is different too. I thought it is because of the 'm'. Is it just because it is at the end of a word. I know Alemannic dialects were 's' can have a similar influece as 'n'. So it could affect '-um' and '-us'. I did not read the whole post. Don't mind if I write stupid things.
Well, in Vulgar Latin as a whole final -m, except in stressed monosyllables was lost; in fact the letter represented, by the evidence of Old Latin, where it is written or not written a bit randomly, merely a nasalization of the final vowel, so what was lost was vowel nasalization. The jury is still out (and will be forever, as we really can't know unless some new evidence emerges) regarding whether -um became -u or -o, and thus also whether the accusative in the second declension merged with the ablative/dative phonetically and not just morphologically. The confusion in the spelling of these endings in Late/Vulgar Latin texts may be due to the general confusion of the letters u/o brought about by the merger of short /u/ with long /o:/ or to an actual merger of the two unstressed vowels in this case. In fact written -VM may have represented spoken /o~/, being written with V on analogy with -VS. For Rhodrese I actually assume that -VM represented -/u~/, which became -/u/ and remained distinct from -/o/, so th�t later -/u/ could change into something else ([@]), whereafter -/o/ became -/u/. All this is to satisfy my linguistic taste: I want first person present singulars to show 'u-umlaut' but the singular of nouns and adjectives not to show it. However I'm ATM reevaluating this: for one thing it mightn't be a bad thing if AMATUS becomes _amuad_ and so has a different stressed vowel from _amiade_ < AMATA. Secondly it might also not be a bad thing if -IS and -US actually merge with -AS, -ES, -OS and they all end up with an *-@s/-@z/-@j/-@ allomorphy. The end result may be much the same anyway. Consider the case and number forms of AMATUS in Vulgar Latin: AMATUS AMATI AMATA AMATAS AMATU AMATOS AMATA AMATAS and the present singular indicative and imperative of AMO and TACEO AMO AMAS AMAT AMA TACEO TACES TACET TACE In a first stage there is one simple shift: final unstressed /o/, but not /os/, merges with /u/ -- probably the vowels in closed final syllables, other than /a/, were laxer than absolute final vowels. (I have tacitly[!] implemented some consonant changes): ama:dus ama:di ama:da ama:das ama:du ama:dos ama:da ama:das a:mu a:mas a:mat a:ma ta:tSu ta:dzes ta:dzet ta:dze Note that VL length is different from CL length: in VL all vowels in open stressed syllables are long, all other vowels are short. However some unstressed penultimate vowels get lost early, so the now length becomes phonemic. Next /a:/ fronts to [&:] (the vowel of American English _cat_, but long) *except* where followed by /u/ -- there it becomes [Q:] (the _law_ vowel) instead: am&:dus am&:di am&:da am&:das amQ:du am&:dus am&:da am&:das Q:mu &:mas &:mat &:ma tQ:tSu t&:dzes t&:dzet t&:dze For the time being this is merely an allophonic change: the phoneme /a:/ has two variants depending on context. Next all vowels in final syllables except /a/ merge as [@] -- quite possibly /i/ and /u/ merge first as [I\] which then merges with [@]. Notice how this makes /&:/ and /Q:/ distinct phonemes, since /am&:d@/ and /amQ:d@/ are otherwise identical! amQ:d@s am&:d@ am&:da am&:das amQ:d@ am&:d@s am&:da am&:das Q:m@ &:mas &:mat &:ma tQ:tS@ t&:dz@s t&:dz@t t&:dz@ All along -/s/ has had two allophones: [z] before a voiced sound, including across a word boundary without a pause and [s] elsewhere. Now somewhen parallel with the above vowel changes two more allophones of /s/ emerge: [j] before a voiced consonant and [h] before a pause. Of course this [j] ceases to belong to the /s/ phoneme, since there is already a /j/ phoneme! So in fact we have the following forms: amQ:d@s am&:d@ am&:da am&:das amQ:d@z am&:daz amQ:d@j am&:daj amQ:d@h am&:dah amQ:d@ am&:d@s am&:da am&:das am&:d@z am&:daz am&:d@j am&:daj am&:d@h am&:dah Q:m@ &:mas &:mat &:ma &:maz &:maj &:mah tQ:tS@ t&:dz@s t&:dz@t t&:dz@ t&:dz@z t&:dz@j t&:dz@h Next there happens one assimilatory change: -@j and -aj both become -ej -- probably only a change of allophone as far as -@j is concerned, since [@] can well be seen as an allophone of /e/. Also the [h] allophone of /s/ simply disappears: amQ:d@s am&:d@ am&:da am&:das amQ:d@z am&:daz amQ:dej am&:dej amQ:d@ am&:da amQ:d@ am&:d@s am&:da am&:das am&:d@z am&:daz am&:dej am&:dej am&:d@ am&:da Q:m@ &:mas &:mat &:ma &:maz &:mej &:ma tQ:tS@ t&:dz@s t&:dz@t t&:dz@ t&:dz@z t&:dzej t&:dz@ Reduction of final unstressed syllables goes on: -[@] disappears and -[ej] becomes -/i/. Also final stops and affricates are devoiced, perhaps except before voiced sounds within a phrase: amQ:ts am&:t am&:da am&:das amQ:di am&:di amQ:t am&:da amQ:t am&:ts am&:da am&:das am&:di am&:di am&:t am&:da Q:m &:mas &:mat &:ma &:mi &:ma tQ:tS t&:ts t&:tst t&:ts t&:dzi Probably at this time the highly distinctive plurals and second persons in -/i/ began to replace the indistictive plurals and second persons in zero and -/a/, though the zero m.n.pl. and 2p.sg. and f.pl. in s/z lingered on, the latter as alternatives, since third declension feminines all had -/i/ plurals but no -as/-az plurals: amQ:ts am&:t am&:da am&:di am&:das amQ:t am&:di am&:da am&:di am&:das Q:m &:mi &:mat &:ma &:mas tQ:tS t&:dzi t&:tst t&:ts t&:ts Somewhere along the road all long vowels except /i:/ and /u:/ have diphthongized, so what we have now is (admittedly the transcriptions become somewhat hard to read!): amQ@ts am&@t am&@da am&@di am&@das amQ@t am&@di am&@da am&@di am&@das Q@m &@mi &@mat &@ma &@mas tQ@tS t&@dzi t&@tst t&@ts t&@ts The next change is possibly the most important in the whole history of Rhodrese: i-umlaut (metaphony), which in the case of front vowels like [&] means that they become [i], and then -/i/ disappears. Probably around the same time -/a/C* is reduced to [@]. Final devoicing was by now a rule of the language, so the forms which had lost -/i/ were devoiced: amQ@ts @m&@t @m&@d@ ami@t @m&@d@s amQ@t ami@t @m&@d@ ami@t @m&@d@s Q@m i@m &@m@t &@m@ &@m@s tQ@tS ti@ts t&@tst t&@ts t&@ts These are in fact the forms of Old Rhodrese, which look as follows in 'orthography': amoatz ameat ameade amiet ameades amoat amiet ameade amiet ameades oam hiem eamet eame eames toatz tietz teatzt teatz teatz /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "C'est en vain que nos Josu�s litt�raires crient � la langue de s'arr�ter; les langues ni le soleil ne s'arr�tent plus. Le jour o� elles se *fixent*, c'est qu'elles meurent." (Victor Hugo)