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Capsicum skrev:
So if 'ragazzo' in earlier times could mean herder ('Hirt' as the text says) that would make '*reguardius' an even better etymon as I would have expectet because of 'guardare'. :) The only thing what I can not explane is that there is no 'u' in 'ragazzo'. Though '-ius' would be a strange ending. I would rather expect '-arius' for such words. Thomas
You have to explain why *rdj comes out as [tts] and not as [rdz] or [rdZ], and *REGARDIUS would as you say be a unique formation. For some other attempted etymologies see <http://www.etimo.it/?term=ragazzo&find=Cerca> Looking for a possible Germanic derivation I found the word {rak|on} 'fetter', which would become _raka_ in Gothic. A *RAKATIUS 'horseboy' ("Pferdeknecht") is IMHO entirely plausible. Indeed the idea of a Gothic term from horsekeeping creeping into Italian is rather alluring! We will never *know* the etymology of what probably was a slang term, however; there are only various more or less plausible possibilities. /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "C'est en vain que nos Josu�s litt�raires crient � la langue de s'arr�ter; les langues ni le soleil ne s'arr�tent plus. Le jour o� elles se *fixent*, c'est qu'elles meurent." (Victor Hugo)