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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Collier" <petecollier@...> wrote: > > Does anyone have details of the complete VL conjugation of STARE > (or more complete than me at least)? I have the following active > present indicative forms: > > 1S stao > 2S stais > 3S stait > 1P ? > 2P ? > 3P staunt > > but that's all I can find! As to the perfect indicative or > present/perfect subjunctive forms, I have no idea :( > > > P. Those look wrong to me. Where did you get them? Based mainly on CL and Spanish (French and Italian seem to be more innovative with endings), for the present, I'd think it was more like: Pres.Ind. Pres.Subj. 1S estó(+ i?) esté 2S estás estés 3S estát estét 1P estamos estemos 2P estates estetes 3P estánt estént I've included some analogy in the subjunctive; otherwise, 1S, 3S, and 3P would have E instead of é (plus n in 1S). You didn't ask for the imperfect forms, but they look perfectly regular. The perfect tenses are harder: Italian has contractions while Spanish has replaced the stem and (modern) French is useless here. So I hope you can handle a large amount of sodium chloride. Perf.Ind. Plup.Subj. 1S estEti estetesse 2S estetesti estetesses 3S estEtet estetesset 1P estEtemos estetessemos 2P estetestes estetessetes 3P estEteront estetessent I'm using the pluperfect subjunctive instead of the perfect because the latter has reflexes only in Portuguese (and I don't know what they are). Another thing to note: I'm assuming a rather late variety of VL which excludes the ancestor of Sardinian. The vowels may not be totally right for the Romanian branch, or even Portuguese. Jeff