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Sorry for delay... Muke wrote: > _^ is just plain X-SAMPA for "non-syllabic", i.e. /oe/ > and /ae/ as diphthongs with an e-type offglide. OK, added to my notes... ah no, it was on there but faint. Padraic: >> Well, if you have /i/ to /e/, then I suspect the diphthongs might follow along: /ai/ > /ae/ perhaps to /&/? Course, you could always introduce a rule that /i/ simply disappears in diphthongs. << The /a/ would change too, to /o/, giving */oe/. As I've mentioned, I have reasons to avoid that as a diphthong. But I suppose /9/, already present due to u-umlaut of stressed /e/, could also come in as a development of /ai/ > /oi/ > /oe/. Is /9/ is valid development of the /oe/ diphthong? I don't want to just assume that, despite appearances. The other alternative, I think, is /o:/. So aesthetic matters come into play. Which will feel better, that the word for 1 is _oyns_, _oens_ or _�ns_? 11: _oylf_, _oelf_, _�lf_? "My": _moyn_, _moen_, _m�n_? "Oak": _oyscu_, _oescu_, _�scu_? "Very": _soy_, _soe_, _s�_? What looks right for a Med. language? Hmmm. Remembering that all the "oe"s above are actually oe-lig (curse you, email encoding glitches), I'm inclining slightly towards the _oe_ solution, i.e. that *both* vowels shifted, but that conflicts with what I did with /au/ and /eu/ (to /ou/ and /au/ respectively). /ei/ is rare enough in Gmc that I can probably just shift it to /a:/, so I'll worry about that later. Any comments gratefully received. Jamets -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- �lvard J. te Kraamlep Vorquichtat, Binertglobakl�i Jameld Zolidaton kraamlep@hidden.email BJZ Wabplaz: http://www.zolid.com/zm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --