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--- Dan Jones skrzypszy: > > In that case, it might be an idea to classify both Jelbazech and > > Lessinu (the two seem to have a lot in common, notably the German > > soundchange) into a common subcategory of II. Central (or North) > > Romance. > > Again, I would say no <Dan turns into a complete spoilsport>. > *Linguistically*, from what I can tell, they simply don't fit > together- Lessinu is simply a lot more archaic than Jelbazech. It > should be remembered that the so-called "Germanic" features of > Jelbazech are fairly superficial- they're more like areal features My impression is that the same seems to be the case for Lessinu. And like Jelbazech, Lessinu also appear to have a variation without High German sound changes. The problem is that I know very little about Lessinu. I don't know if Joe is subscribed to this list, but I'm afraid we'll need his help on the matter. > As for Ladin, hmm. Really, *here* Ladin is mutualy intelligible > with Rhaeto-Romance, and can be considered dialects of one another. > *There*, I think that Ladin would in fact be a dialect (or a > language closely related to) Jelbazech. Possibly. It's existence has been established, but nothing is known about the details. What you write seems plausible. > [1] For comparison, here's part of the Strasbourg Oath in Old > Jelbazech (circa 1000 CE) and Modern Jelbazech. [...] Cool! I'll try my teeth on it as well. This text could essentially serve as a specimen of any Romlang without its major sound changes. Jan ===== "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping in a closed room with a mosquito." Relay 10/R - schedule: <http://steen.free.fr/relay10/schedule.html> - rules: <http://steen.free.fr/relay10/intro.html> ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com