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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@y...> wrote: > --- BP Jonsson skrzypszy: > > > Patre Noster > > > > Patre Noster, kvel jesty ja czalov, si týv numja súcevecát. > > Advenja kralotate tyva. Si vác volútate tyva, kvomod ja > > czalu i ja tera. Pane noster kvotidzán dá nób odze. I > > remete djebety nostry kvomod nó remetjem djébturev nostrov. > > I nje nó jadykasty ja tjatacune, mázs libera nó da mál. > > > > Kvonja tjev jé kralota i potesta i hlura ja sékly. > > > > Amen. > > Cool!!! Thanks! > > A few questions, though. > > If "si" works as an optative/imperative marker, why does it appear > with "súcevecát" and "vác", but not with "advenja"? Because _si_ is the third person subjunctive present of 'to be', regularly derived from _sît_. The forms _súcevecát_ and _vác_ are "irregular" past participles with _si_ as an auxiliary forming the passive, while _advenja_ is an active subjunctive in its own right. > > Where does the final "-v" come from? _-ibus_ and _*-ubus_. There is a rule which weakens /b/ to /v/ between jers. > > Why "kralotate" and "volútate", but also "potesta"/"kralota"? What is > the difference? It should be that nominative is in _-a_ but accusative in _-ate_. I screwed it up. > > I see that you returned to the 2nd person ending "-sty" (from the > perfect). Actually from a postfixed pronoun _ty_, but I'm undecided about it. > > I quite like "kvonja"! :) > > Jan > > ===== > "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping in a closed room with a mosquito." > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html