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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@y...> wrote: > --- Christian Thalmann <cinga@g...> wrote: > > --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Costentin > > Cornomorus > > <elemtilas@y...> wrote: > > > > > /eWR/ is sort of like French "heure", but I > > can > > > never recall the real IPA for it. > > > > Well, French "heure" certainly has no [e] and > > no voiceless > > [w] in it... it's [9R]. > > So, [9] is the whole diphthongy thing? Anyway, > there's certainly a [e] in the Kerno counterpart. It's not a diphthong. It's the rounded counterpart of [E]. Straight single vowel. You must be referring to an utterly strange dialect, or to a different word. Though I can't think of a French diphthong containing a [e], except maybe [ej] in "payer", but Christophe would probably claim that to be [pEje] in *real* French. -- Christian Thalmann