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Melroch 'Aestan wrote: > In fact both the _u_s in _diurnus_ are short, or > else we would get French **jur and Italian **giurno, > whereas we in fact have _jour, giorno_. I checked > in Meyer-L�bke too. It's definitely short. Mea maxima culpa. I was too lazy to check it up. Indeed they are short. Transition L /u/ > VL /o/ should be well known to me! -- Yitzik