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Re: [romconlang] etymological insanity



--- Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@hidden.email> wrote:
<snip>
> > Many of my words are well documented in little
> > notebooks of spices or body parts or fruits or
> > animals
> > or whatnot, but a few are really frustrating to
> > track
> > down.  Where DID I come up with some of these
> > words?!?!  
> 
> When that happens for Kerno, I invoke "borrowing
> from Brithenig", "folk innovation", "Celtic root"
> or "etymon unknown".

Yep, except, I don't have a Brithenig to borrow from. 
I really need to invent a few "folk innovations" for
C-a.  I have several words marked as "Semitic", but
that usually means I snagged a Hebrew word and maybe
tinkered with the vowels a bit to stand in fo a Punic
root I couldn't find.  I do have one or two "etym.
unk."'s in the dictionary, but they're genuine
coinages or onomot.  And I really hate to label
something "unknown" when I just know some one of the
several dozen smarty-pantses on these lists is going
to send me an email someday saying "Why is that marked
unk.?  It sure looks like it comes from X to me." 
Then I'll feel like a real D'oh-nut.

<snip>
> > But now I've come up with a word I have no
> > recollection of coining -- chirgada.  It means
> > "checkers", as in the game.  But I have no idea
> > where
> > this word came form.  I've checked my note book
> > on
> > games which shows all the Romlangs having some
> > variant
> > of "dama".  I've checked all my Arabic
> > dictionaries
> > and none of them even *have* checkers so it
> > couldn't
> > be that.  I can't believe I found a Punic root
> > for
> > THAT.  I can't find the Greek so I doubt that
> > was the origin.
> 
> It looks a heck of a lot like English "checkers",
> you know! It could also ultimately be
> Arabo-Persian, as is English checkers. Compare
> with check mate, "sh�h m�t". Both checkers and
> chess derive from sh�h.
> 
> Could any of that give you chirgada?
> 
> Padraic.
> 

Well, you might be just the smarty-pants I was talking
about above.  I seem to recall now looking in that
English etymology book that is now in storage and
thinking "Well, why-the-heck don't Spanish got 'is
cheer word ifn English gots it."  Unfortunately, my
English dictionary only traces the etym. back to ME! 
I wonder what Miriam Webster has on-line . . . 

Adam

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Il prori ul pa&#38621;veju fi dji atexindu mutu madji
fached. -- Carrajena proverb