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Mike S. scripsit: > I have gradually come to see the light on this idea. As long as there is a > dictionary editor keeping track of coinages and guaranteeing uniqueness, > then the mnemonicity of the component stems will surely be sufficient for > the needs of speakers, and the added machinery needed for unique > compositionality of form is rather pointless. That was tried in pre-1983 Loglan, but it didn't work, precisely because it was impossible to keep the community unified enough. It would be easier now on the Internet, but unless people are writing with one eye on the dictionary all the time, colliding coinages will appear. Livagian, as an artlang, doesn't have this problem, because only And gets to make up words in practice. With 2-3 letter words, I really don't think you need any more collapsing. In Gua\spi, where predicate words are about the same size as in Xorban, lujvo are made by concatenation, and true tanru require a particle. (The Gua\spi tone system allows the representation of three different jvajvo relationships by tone alone, an advantage Xorban doesn't have.) -- "Repeat this until 'update-mounts -v' shows no updates. John Cowan You may well have to log in to particular machines, hunt down cowan@hidden.email people who still have processes running, and kill them."