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Re: [engelang] Myopic singularization



Or how you choose to talk.  As Harry Hoijer used to say at the end of the SWH class, "No matter how you slice it, it is all baloney."  I thnk that we can all eventually agree on a structural definition for these various things, however we describe the items that fit the nodes.  I tend to think that one way of talking is less metaphysical (to the average person) and, thus, less muddling and misleading than others, and that that way of talking involves less in the way of explanations and appeal to oddities than the others.  But that is aesthetics.  So long as we come down in the same place in terms of facts on the ground, I don't much care what happens in the various metalinguistic tales (which we were supposed to avoid in the first place, but you all keep dragging in).



From: John Cowan <cowan@hidden.email>
To: engelang@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [engelang] Myopic singularization

 
John E. Clifford scripsit:

> While there may or may not be one and only one John Clifford, there
> clearly is not only one cat.

Well, that depends on the specifics of your ontology. The ancient
Egyptians, who were by no means primitives, apparently really did think
that a new sun was born every morning in the eastern desert, crossed
the sky, and died in the western desert (wherefore the latter was the
land of the dead for them). If you had told them there was only one
Sun, they would have thought that was ludicrous: obviously each sun is
ontologically distinct!

There is a group of 47,000 quaking aspens in the Wasatch Mountains of
Utah that have been shown to be a single organism: the root systems are
interconnected and the trees are genetically identical. From the mass
point of view, Pando (< Latin _pando_ 'I spread') is at least 80,000
years old and perhaps a million; it weighs about 6000 metric tons.
Myopically singularized, it's just one tree of perfectly ordinary size
and lifespan.

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