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--- In engelang@yahoogroups.com, And Rosta <a.rosta@...> wrote:
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> Like Jorge, I feel that this proposal does not score high with
respect to the Concision desideratum... Your solution is pretty
analogous to one of those my conlang uses for foreign text, but it
strikes me as too cumbersome for ordinary names.
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> I guess the solution will depend both on the phonology of your
conlang and on its segmentation strategy.
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> [...]
I'm trying a more concise approach: for short names (up to two
syllables), one leading particle indicates the number of syllables and
whether the name begins/ends in consonant/vowel. For names of 2-9
syllables, a leading particle indicates the beginning/ending in
consonant/vowel, and it's followed by a monosyllabic, one-digit number
that indicates the number of syllables, and then the name. For
more-than-nine-syllable names, the keyword approach is used.
Here are some details (in its current form):
FOREIGN NAMES:
Both encapsulation and conciseness are paramount
NOTES:
1) count syllables in the name as pronounce in isolation, without the
leading and/or trailing letters added.
2) If the name begins in vowel, a consonant must be added at the
beginning (usually "H", because it's quite unobstrussive)
3) If it ends in conosonant, a vowel (usually "U", because it's the
consonant cluster breaker) may or may not be added (only if necessary).
4) When a keyword is used, it must be monosyllabic (unless indicated
otherwise by the particle "Suei", before liai, liei,..etc).
One-syllable foreign names:
la+H+name:
begins and ends in vowel. Discard initial consonant (for instance,"H")
le+H+name(+U):
begins in vowel, ends in consonant. Discard initial consonant
(f.i.,"H") and final vowel (f.i: "A") if present.
lo+name:
begins in consonant, ends in vowel.
li+name(+U):
begins and ends in consonant Discard final vowel (f.i: "U") if present.
example:
Ann:lehan OR lehanu (when followed by -n or other consonant that makes
it convenient to add a vowel)
two-syllable foreign names:
lia+H+name: analogous
lie+H+name(+U): "
lio+name: "
liu+name(+U): "
example:
Richard: liur'itxard(u)
up to nine syllables:
lai+number+H+name: analogous
lei+H+number+name(+U): "
loi+number+name: "
lui+number+name(+U): "
example:
Constantine ("ri" means "3") : luirik'onstantain(u)
more than nine syllables:
liai+keyword+H+name+keyword: analogous
liei+keyword+H+name(+U)+keyword: "
lioi+keyword+name+keyword: "
liui+keyword+name(+U)+keyword: "
example:
Donatella (< 9 syllables not required!) : lioikadonat'elaka
Regards,
Martin Baldan