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hello i'm new here. I am very aware of the last 2 messages, so my joining is a bit tentative. I have been busy with interlingua over the last 1.5 years roughly. In the last month i've looked at Ido. But really i'm looking for a more radical departure from my own natural language. I've looked at neo-patwa (even sent a few messages in the google-group, in neopatwa), sasxsek, lojban and ceqli. The reason i'm going for ceqli is that the group has the most members and is therefore most "alive" - at least in theory (and see the previous 2 messages...) I know lojban is the most active and probably has more people interested in it, but it seemed too difficult for me to try on in first instance. (if, however, i succeed in learning/using a language like these, that is, quite far removed from my own language - after all interlingua/Ido are pretty easy but then you might as well speak english...- then I might try on lojban, who knows. My chilhood language was Hungarian which I still speak fluently, but with an accent and restricted vocabulary. I am Dutch (from the Netherlands/Holland) but have lived in England for 18 years and now almost exclusively use english, though in a sense, of course, my 1st language is Dutch... I have not yet started "learning" ceqli. I am kind of waiting to see what will happen after this message... so, best wishes and hope to hear from you all soon andrew N.B. oh, BTW, i have no ulterior motive for doing this except for the fun of it.