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The discussions going on at the Demos group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/demos-ial-project/ is leading impressionable me to think about some reworking of Tceqli. In particular: Return to the Loglan idea of grammatical particles that have a special shape. This would be CV, and would yield up 65 possible grammar words. Articles, tense and aspect markers, punctuation, things like that. Allow any number of tcwaba at the beginning of a morph, and allow schwa-buffering to make it pronounceable for just about everybody. This would enable word borrowing like ktcpe from ketchup (an extreme example) to be pronounced kuh-chuh-PEH or kuh-tuh-shuh-PE. Rex May rmay@hidden.email See some of my cartoons at: http://homepage.mac.com/rmay/ NOW UPDATED REGULARLY!