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--- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@g...> wrote: > On 5/28/05, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: > > on 5/27/05 10:19 AM, Jim Henry at jimhenry1973@g... wrote: > > > > Having both "byen" and "bien" ocur would probably be a bad idea; > > > they don't contrast strongly enough. Having "ie" in some > > > words and "ye" in others might be similarly confusing. > > > Maybe you should forbid any sequence of two vowels that could > > > be easily confused with a permitted diphthong. > > > So since you allow "wa" there could be no words with "ua", > > > etc. > > > > Yes, except for the stress rules again. bwa is pronounced BWA, and bua > > pronounce BU-a. > > But what if you had a final or medial consonant? > buan / bwan > tuali / twali > etc. > I completely agree. See my last post. > > > > and/or forbid users of the language to form their own > > I see no reason not to allow adhocs, in that good ones will survive and > > awkward ones won't. And the non-terse way is with the prefix po - pobon = > > bad. > > OK, but in that case you need to make sure that no two words > in the base lexicon could be changed into each other by this > faloba-reversal antonymy -- even in cases where you don't think > antonymy would make sense. > Hm. Yes and no. By and large, you'd try to not have that happen, but OTOH, it would do very little harm. No more than the occasional Esperanto homonym like our domacheto or sukero. I'd say yes, avoid it in the case of common roots, though. But if you have a pair like pau (foot) and pua (pea), neither of which actually has a logical opposite, it's more a source of humor than of confusion. And the y and w may have a use after all - y can be /Z/, thus restoring the symmetry - C is to X as J is to Y. And Y is actually /Z/ in some Spanish dialects. That leaves w. W could serve as the maker of nonCeqli sounds, like I have H doing right now. ow could be umlaut o, uw umlaut u, tw /T/, etc. And that would be better than h, because h already has a use.