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Okay, getting wild here, imagine Ceqli without semivowel letters, and the i and u allowed to become semivowels in juxtapostion with other vowelsl We could say that there are only a few diphthongs: ai, ei, oi, au ua, ui, ue ia, io, iu When any other vowels come together, they are pronounced separately, the diphthongs above are always pronounced as one syllable. It would be allowed to pronounce the diphthongs os two syllables IF the word is stressed as though it was one syllable. That's to accomodate people for whom the diphthongs are difficult. So "bien" could be said bi-EN or BYEN. "Paio" would be PA-yo or PA-i-o. Loglan is a bit this way, but it allows the stress to change, I think. Then the rule changes for stress, only in that we make it "vowel or diphthong," instead of just vowel. That is, stress is on the next-to-last syllable if the morphem ends in a vowel or diphthong. On the last syllable if it does not. Then we'd have these differences: Words like cwa and bwa would become cua and bua, but would be pronounced the same way. It would no longer be possible to have a word like 'dia' pronounced 'DI-a'. It would be one syllable. It could, I suppose, be spelled "diia", giving "DI-ya" And, if we do all that, what would we use y and w for? Rex F. May (Baloo) Visit my website at: http://homepage.mac.com/rmay/ Great leadership training for boys at: http://afewgoodkids.com Strange language from an alternate universe at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Texperanto.html