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Re: [ceqli] Re: Military



on 3/29/04 9:55 AM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote:

> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...>
> wrote:
>> Ah, how shall we call military rank?  I think Loglan did
> something like:
>> 
>> Officer-1, Officer-2, etc.
>> 
>> Any ideas for a systematic approach?
>> -- 
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> Perhaps. Admittedly, there is no way even to establish
> equivalencies across the different military and quasi-military
> services of the different nations of the world. What one service
> would mean by "Officer-2" -- who is subordinate, billet
> responsibilities, etc. -- would be utterly different from what
> another service would mean. It so happens that a US Navy
> lieutenant and a US Army captain are equivalent and are both
> O-3, but the parallelism falls apart across and outside the
> boundaries of the USA.

> 
> HOWEVER --- it is in the nature of military services to have a
> strict rank hierarchy, so Officer-1, Officer-2 could be used within
> the context of any given military arm to mean something specific.

It just occured to me that Russian for colonel is regiment-nik.  Officers
could be named for what they're supposed to boss.  And now it hits me that
that's how SS officers were named.
> 
> One caveat: sometimes they create new ranks, or move them
> around a little. For example, the rank of Commodore does not
> usually exist in the US Navy. But in time of war, it sometimes
> gets reinstated, and it sits between Captain and Rear Admiral. If
> Captain is Officer-6 and Rear Admiral is Officer-7, where do we
> put Commodore?
> 
> (Actually, Captain wouldn't be Officer-6 because we need to
> account for all the enlisted and petty/warrant ranks.... It would be
> around Officer-14, I guess.)

No, we could for US forces use the pay grade system E-1 thru 9 for enlisted
men, O-1 thru whatever for officers.
> 
> This would also mean that an Officer-9 in one service might truly
> be equal to Officer-10 in another service; but that's for them to
> work out.

Yes.  You know, Spanish coronel and German general fit ceqli phonology
perfectly.
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