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Re: [ceqli] Re: Connectives



on 2/25/04 9:09 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote:

> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote:
>> on 2/25/04 10:31 AM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...>
> 
> --SNIP--
> 
>> Agree again, sort of.  Here's what we need, I think.  A set of
> Loglanesque
>> connectives that can do all of the Loglan things, but, to keep both
> you and
>> me happy, a more _un_obvious derivation.
>> 
>> Loglan I has a set of 56 variations of the connectives,
> combinations of them
>> with fore-no's and after-no's
>> 
>> Let's say that the sign of the connective in ceqli is "s",  We then
> have,
>> for redundancy, different vowel/weak combos:
>> 
>> snan  and  (ANd)
>> sor  and/or (OR)
>> snil  if and only if (oNLY)
>> sweq  wether or not (WEther or not)  ["q" just to increase
> redundancy]
>> 
>> Then, what in Loglan would be a prefixed 'no' becomes a pseudo-
> suffix "aw",
>> and what would be the suffixed 'noi' becomes the pseudo-suffix "oy"
>> 
>> 'noa,' then, is "soraw", and 'anoi' is "soroy"
>> 
>> So, they can be taken apart if we want to, but we don't have to.
> Reaction?
>> 
> 
> Okay. The series approach is going to be easier to maintain than
> inventing a brand new word for every logical connective. But I liked
> the k-series better. 'And' is going to be a very common connective,
> and "snan" is...um...a bit rough on the tongue.

K series better?  No problem (I think I do too):

Kay
Kaw
Kli
Kwe

Suffixes can be "ru" for front no and "roy" for back no

noa is "Kawru" and anoi "Kawroy"

Or, we can follow Loglan more closely and just use a combining form:

"byu"

and have "byukaw" and "kawbyu"
> 
> I also think we may need different levels of connecting
> hyphens...Some stickier or with broader scope than others. Or
> again, "sa" to say 'let's pause a moment and gather everything up'.
> Did we ever decide whether "sa" wraps up everything including all
> preceding "sa" clauses, or just everything since the previous "sa" in
> the sentence?
> 
> Somewhat related topic: Have we ever decided whether multiple
> modifiers on a headword all apply to the headword, or would the first
> modifier modify the second modifier, and so on?

I'll think about both of these and get back to you.

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