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on 2/21/04 9:39 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote: > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: >> on 2/21/04 6:19 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote: >> >>> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: > --SNIP-- >> Bon ke zi sta ci. can be transformed to >> >> Ke zi sta ci beke bon. >> >> Anyhow, we can use both >> >> co bon >> and >> bon ke >> >> and see which works best. > > Well....okay. > But, I agree, I like "co bon" better. And it makes more logical sense. >> >> Oh, I now have about 985 words in the glossary, attached. > > The attachment gets flagged but not actually attached. Try putting it > in the Files section. > > In your latest vocabulary, are you removing initial consonant > clusters? We had talked about this as a means of permitting the schwa > allophone for "e". Well, not yet. Tho the ceqli wordshape rule calls for one or more consonants at the beginning, it seems to in practice be one or two consonants. Can we use Italian as a guide? If it's permitted in Italian ? initial clusters, I mean ? it's permitted in ceqli? Looking at the vocabulary, we have as initial clusters: sf sk sp st ts xp xt zb nothing for xk yet, but that'll be permitted. That's not counting lrmn as consonants, of course. The only thing I'm really crazy about that I think you don't like is the ts. but if you think about it, it's analogous to the c sound x is to c as s is to ts. They're both actually affricates, as is j, not clusters. If we had an extra Roman letter, we'd use it for ts. And it's very useful for German loanwords. as well as many Mandarin ones. And if we can agree on this set, I don't think we'll be needing any more. I don't want any ps or bz or anything like that. -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm