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Re: [ceqli] Re: discursives



on 2/21/04 6:19 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote:

> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote:
>> on 2/21/04 2:49 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote:
>>> --SNIP--
> --SNIP--
>> 
>> Maybe we can solve the word-order problem thus.
>> 
>> Co bon, zi sta ci.   (What will be said next) is good, you are here
>> zi sta ci, ce bon.   You are here (What has just been said) is good.
>> 
> I like that! It then becomes (1) a description of the utterance, and
> (2) the utterance itself, quite separate. And if we need to, we can
> bracket our description with "beco" or "bece", respectively. (Good
> old "be"!) "Ke" could also play that role, I suppose...marking the
> beginning of the main phrase rather than the end of the attitudinal,
> which is, of course, the same place.

I like it too.  
> 
>> OTOH, Most of the time we want to start with the attitudinal anyway.
>> 
>> Bon ke zi sta ci.
>> 
> Nah. SVO is the rule, as you said, so let's not create things that
> look like exceptions (whether they really are or not). It's just more
> stuff to explain to people trying to learn the language.

Yes, I suppose, but VS is a valid order for a one-place verb like "bon."
And

Bon ke zi sta ci.  can be transformed to

Ke zi sta ci beke bon.

Anyhow, we can use both

co bon
and
bon ke

and see which works best.

Oh, I now have about 985 words in the glossary, attached.
> 

Rex F. May (Baloo) 
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