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Re: [ceqli] Re: parsing phrases



on 1/28/04 12:45 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote:

> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...>
> wrote:
>> on 1/27/04 6:12 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote:
>> 
> --SNIP--
>> 
>> Why not....
>> Go pipyar to jeneral tay jonz
>> French does it that way, I believe.
>> 
>> We could consider it short for
>> Go pipyar to jeneral hu bi tay jonz
>> 
>> Or we can scrunch 'hu bi' into 'hwi'
>> Go pipyar to jeneral hwi tay jonz
>> 
>> All would be permitted, but the first method would be used
> where no
>> confusion would result.  Hm?
>> 
>> 
> -- 
>> 
> I'm good with articles preceding titles:
> 
> "Poja to jeneral tay Smith" = 'Stop General Smith'
> 
> Whenever we have consecutive noun phrases without an
> intervening conjunction or verb, then we're talking about the
> same thing: 'My mother, the car'; 'the general, (the) Smith'. I don't
> see a need for anything more.
> 
> Now, how do we indicate that we are addressing someone:
> 
> 'Stop, General Smith! General Smith! Stop!'
> 
> Different article? Variant form of article? Mark the verb as an
> imperative (to the person addressed? or to a third party?)?
> Maybe a general purpose exclamatory marker -- something
> equivalent to 'Yo!'  ("ho!" or "hoy!" or "haw!"?) -- meaning 'I need
> the attention of...' or 'I address...'?

I was thinking like you, of an "I address" form, but I think I like 'hoy'
best.  Can be closed with 'behoy'.
> 
> [Usual disclaimer that in casual speech, a lot of this rigour can
> be dispensed with.]
> 

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