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on 1/28/04 12:45 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote: > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> > wrote: >> on 1/27/04 6:12 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@r... wrote: >> > --SNIP-- >> >> Why not.... >> Go pipyar to jeneral tay jonz >> French does it that way, I believe. >> >> We could consider it short for >> Go pipyar to jeneral hu bi tay jonz >> >> Or we can scrunch 'hu bi' into 'hwi' >> Go pipyar to jeneral hwi tay jonz >> >> All would be permitted, but the first method would be used > where no >> confusion would result. Hm? >> >> > -- >> > I'm good with articles preceding titles: > > "Poja to jeneral tay Smith" = 'Stop General Smith' > > Whenever we have consecutive noun phrases without an > intervening conjunction or verb, then we're talking about the > same thing: 'My mother, the car'; 'the general, (the) Smith'. I don't > see a need for anything more. > > Now, how do we indicate that we are addressing someone: > > 'Stop, General Smith! General Smith! Stop!' > > Different article? Variant form of article? Mark the verb as an > imperative (to the person addressed? or to a third party?)? > Maybe a general purpose exclamatory marker -- something > equivalent to 'Yo!' ("ho!" or "hoy!" or "haw!"?) -- meaning 'I need > the attention of...' or 'I address...'? I was thinking like you, of an "I address" form, but I think I like 'hoy' best. Can be closed with 'behoy'. > > [Usual disclaimer that in casual speech, a lot of this rigour can > be dispensed with.] > -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm