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on 1/19/04 9:51 PM, HandyDad at lsulky@hidden.email wrote: > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: > >> >> Yes, I have to fight my impulse to dick around with the phonology. > I'm >> still hung up on letter names, tho, in a search for reduncancy. > Suppose we >> went with no pattern, but gave each letter a name: >> > --SNIP-- > I had thought about patterns like that too, for my own languages. But > why do we need redundancy (by which you're referring to audible > clarity, yes?)? > > 1: If we're spelling out words...but Ceqli is phonetic so that > shouldn't be necessary very often. Agree. And the zayn thing would work there, too. > > 2: If we're spelling out initialisms...might be nice there, but > there's context as well to help disambiguate. > > 3: If we're spelling out identification over a radio, like police and > pilots do...but they've developed their own specialised alphabet > that's designed for extreme clarity, more even than what you've > suggested. And they've sacrificed brevity to do it. > > I lean toward an alphabet that's easy to memorize and doesn't take a > big bite out of the desired morpheme namespace. Also, just as we > expect listeners to be able to hear the difference between everyday > words that differ by only a consonant, so too could we expect it when > speaking the names of letters. And your 'zayn' idea works just fine > to help out over a staticky phone line. > I'm agreed. Now, I think the best thing is to go with the original (I think) set of names in Cuy. buy, cuy, duy, etc. For lower-case, or default pronouns. For upper case, I see no reason not to just call them ga buy, ga cuy, etc. For pronouns the default will almost always be all that's needed, and the ga-series will be enough for virtually all instances. >> >> All this wouldn't be necessary if we weren't using the 14 for > pronouns. >> Thoughs? > > I love using the letter names for anaphora. An appealing and > effective idiosyncracy. > > --larry > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ceqli-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/book-GesundheitDummy.htm