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on 4/29/02 7:18 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > Ceqli already has brevity from reducing 2-syllable words to 1. More > brevity would require the drastic changes from Lojban grammar that you > mention. I really don't think we can make these drastic changes; too > much work has gone into the Lojban grammar, which is very good except in > a few annoying areas. I see changes like making single words for le + > NU, making NIhO and I the same, putting NAI and CAI into UI, fixing the > 'kujoi' mess, getting rid of unnecessary parts like separate words for > modals, etc. (Of course the words and names for the classes would be > different.) I don't know what al this stuff is, but it all does sound like something that needs fixing. Your first point is something that I consider of high importance. Drives me nuts that some Loglan words are so long. I would hope that we can make the grammar as terse as possible. Now, we can't say Go vol dorm. I want to sleep. Much as I'd like to. But we can say go vol ke dorm, Or can we? Seems like we need to or ta in there. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/