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on 3/10/02 3:49 PM, Alexander Browne at alexbrowne@hidden.email wrote: > Mike Wright wrote: > >> Rex May - Baloo wrote: >> >>> Slowly updating correlatives. >>> http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Ceqcorrel.html >>> When I'm done, I'll delete the Esperanto stuff. > > [...] > >> My feeling is that there is no logical need for special compounds > with >> <diq> and <pe>, since these, like all nouns, can be preceded by the >> <X-sa> forms. It seems like an unnecessary complication. Why would we >> prefer <kwadiq> to <kwasa diq>, or <sope> to <sosa pe>? Is there some >> subtle difference in meaning between the elements of these pairs? > Even >> when we can translate <kulpe> as "everyone" and <kulsa pe> as "every >> person", is there actually any difference in meaning between the two? >> (I'm against trying to match every nuance of English.) >> >> Or, perhaps there is no need for the <X-sa> forms, and <kwa>, <ci>, >> <kul>, and so on, should be able to compound with any noun? >> >> I just don't see the advantage of having both forms. > > I agree with Mike here. To me, it makes the most sense to be able to > combine them with any nouns. > Okay, the question is, then, is there a difference between kwape and kwasa pe? Does kul mean all also in the sense of Go vol kul. I want all, everthing? Can we release all these prefixes to act as either prefixes with an adjectival sense, or as noun-equivalent stand alones? There is a difference between dasa pe and dape. One is modifier-modified, the other is a compound with a specific meaning, in effect, a new morpheme. But there is no difference between gerpe and gersa pe. So shall we just not bother with the second and always use the first? Because it's shorter? I'm moving in that direction. Getting away from the Esperanto paradigm and into the Mandarin "It works, doesn't it" system. So maybe we don't need to list correlatives at all. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/