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on 3/3/02 9:44 AM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 06:43:18AM -0700, Rex May - Baloo wrote: >>> Do you mean the first syllable of morphs only? >> >> No, morphs and compounds. I've been going thru the vocabulary so far, and I >> can't find a problem with that rule, whereas penultimate stress does indeed >> make trouble. > > In the Ceqli vocabulary, there's no way to tell the difference between a > word that could form a compound with another similar word (pe) and a > grammatical word that would never form compounds (to). So you'd have to > know what the words mean, or at least what grammatical class they're in, > to pronounce the stress correctly. > > As an example: I believe "to xi" and "pe xi" would have different > stress. That's sort of true, which is why I've made the 'the' words all in the form tV(V), as an assistance. 'pe xi, ' BTW, would be a strange combination. Normally, as Mike would point out, it would be 'xi pe,' or 'xisa pe.' So why does this not invalidate 'pexi,' etc. Answer is that it does, sort of, but the thing about a compound is that it is _not_ a modifier/modified relationship any more. Bluebird is a compound, blue bird isn't. 'pexi' is -defined- as a female person, on the principle that a compound is actually a new morpheme, made out of two or more morphemes squished together and given the same meaning-status as a morpheme. 'Blufaul' means a particular kind of bird. 'Blu(sa) faul' can mean that same kind of bird (provided that it is indeed blue in color), or any bird that happens to be blue, or is wearing a blue collar to indentify it in a bird race, maybe, or a picture of a bird done with blue ink. All this is an attempt to make Pamzo, pexi, frazo, etc. palatable. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/