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on 2/25/02 1:59 PM, Alexander Browne at alexbrowne@hidden.email wrote: > Ray Bergmann wrote: >> By the way, I never did find out why "c" = [tsh] has apparently >> been unanimously rejected!!?? > > The sound can be better written 'tx'. With c=[tsh], either 'tx' would > have to be illegal or there would be two ways to write the sound. > [zh] or French j (I really should learn ASCII IPA) is written 'j' and > [dzh] is 'dj', so the pattern is already there. Yes. It was for the sake of symmetry and consistency as Skander says. Now, as I had it before, there were letters for /S/, /tS/ and /dZ/ but none for /Z/. That didn't feel right. > > Although I can understand Ray's ideas, I think that they change too > much and then still leave us with the same problem. And I *love* q = > [ng]. > Go fala zi. Go pia pyar do. Thing is, the phone exists in just about every language I know of, and it's a phoneme in Mandarin, English, German, and French (I think). -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm