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Gosa fren, Whatever shall we do with 'c'? I think my former musing that it could be used to indicate nasalized vowels would look pretty ugly. If and when Txeqli included such sounds there will either be a whole new alphabet or the tilde thing will be borrowed from Portuguese. I really hate, as do some of you, to have c out there not meaning anything. I think everybody agrees that it would make a lousy vowel. So that leaves these possibilities: C = /T/ as in Eng 'thin.' Disadvantages: It upsets the symmetry, because there will be no voiced counterpart. Lots (most) can't pronounce it. C = A general click. Disadvantages: hard to pronounce. weirdness. C = sound in German baCH. Disadvantages: Hard to distinguish from the regular h sound, tho German and Esperanto seem to do okay with both. C = your idea here. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm