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I have a new and totally weird idea. How about using 'c' to nasalize vowels? If we do that, we can make the letter names/pronouns more redundant. first off, the 'he' that introduces the vowels and weaks becomes 'hec', prounced like the Hindi word for 'are'. Then, the consonant names don't have to be restricted to Ceu or Cew, but can go like this: Bac Dec Fic Goc Hun Jac Kec Pic Soc Tuc Vac Xec Zic More redundant, and therefore more useful as pronouns. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm