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My point is that there's no need to enshrine any unnecessary degree of metaphysics in the definition of the language. --- In Latejami@yahoogroups.com, "lojbaner" <MorphemeAddict@...> wrote: > > --- In Latejami@yahoogroups.com, "The Shadow" <grose12@> wrote: > > > Not to put too fine a point on it, but the "imaginary or unreal" part > > is a matter of opinion, not objective fact. > > > True, but so is the opposite position. > > stevo >